Legislature(2017 - 2018)BARNES 124

05/04/2018 03:15 PM House LABOR & COMMERCE

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= bill was previously heard/scheduled
+= SB 86 ALASKA RAILROAD CORP: LAND;BONDS,FINANCE TELECONFERENCED
Moved HCS CSSB 86(L&C) Out of Committee
-- Public Testimony --
+= SB 76 ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGE CONTROL; ALCOHOL REG TELECONFERENCED
Moved HCS CSSSSB 76(L&C) Out of Committee
          SB 86-ALASKA RAILROAD CORP: LAND;BONDS,FINANCE                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
3:18:02 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR KITO  announced that the  first order of business  would be                                                               
CS FOR SENATE  BILL NO. 86(FIN) am, "An Act  relating to the sale                                                               
or  other disposal,  leasing, or  encumbrance of  Alaska Railroad                                                               
Corporation  land;   relating  to   the  financing   and  bonding                                                               
authority of  the Alaska Railroad Corporation;  and providing for                                                               
an effective date."                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  KITO announced  that public  testimony on  SB 86  was open                                                               
from the previous hearing.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
3:18:12 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
SHAREN WALSH, Port of Alaska, testified in support of SB 86.                                                                    
She  paraphrased  from  her written  statement,  which  reads  as                                                               
follows [original punctuation provided]:                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
     Port  of Alaska  is  a  publically-owned facility  that                                                                    
     handles  half  of  all   of  Alaska's  inbound,  marine                                                                    
     freight.  Almost 3.5  million  tons of  fuel and  cargo                                                                    
     crossed Port  of Alaska's  docks in  2017. Half  of the                                                                    
     cargo  that  moves through  the  Port  is delivered  to                                                                    
     final  destinations outside  of Anchorage  and directly                                                                    
     benefits some 85 percent of all Alaskans.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
     The Port originally  opened in 1961 and  its docks have                                                                    
     long  exceeded their  original  design  life, they  are                                                                    
     suffering  from severe  corrosion, they  are not  well-                                                                    
     suited for  modern cargo-handling operations,  and they                                                                    
     are   unlikely    to   survive    another   significant                                                                    
     earthquake.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     For  these reasons,  Port of  Alaska is  moving forward                                                                    
     with  a program  replace  its aging  docks before  they                                                                    
     fail. This port modernization program is optimized to                                                                      
     replace the  docks in timely and  cost effective manner                                                                    
     while maintaining  ongoing operations that  benefit our                                                                    
     entire state.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
     The first phase  of this project involves  land that is                                                                    
     currently leased by the Port  from the Alaska Railroad.                                                                    
     Shore stabilization work is scheduled to start on this                                                                     
     property  this summer  in preparation  for construction                                                                    
     of  a  new  petroleum   and  cement  terminal  that  is                                                                    
     scheduled for completion in 2020.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
     It  is  not  appropriate  for the  Port  of  Alaska,  a                                                                    
     publically-owned  enterprise, to  build a  new dock  on                                                                    
     land that  it does  not control in  perpetuity. Passage                                                                    
     of  SB86 will  allow the  land sale  that will  provide                                                                    
     this control.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
     I appreciate your careful  consideration and support of                                                                    
     passing this  bill, so that  the Port can  move forward                                                                    
     with construction  of new docks  that will  benefit all                                                                    
     of Alaska.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
3:20:18 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
TOM MEACHAM  spoke to the  amendments to SB  86.  He  suggested a                                                               
likely  outcome in  court would  a determination  that be  Alaska                                                               
Railroad Transfer  Act (ARTA) does  not require an  exclusive use                                                               
easement on lands  that were not part of Denali  National Park or                                                               
native lands, which  would mean the federal  government would not                                                               
be  defending  the challenge  regarding  all  lands received  and                                                               
deemed to be  erroneous.  He suggested the interests  at the time                                                               
of ARTA  were the only  interests involved.   He said  ARTA shows                                                               
that exclusive  use easement  does not extend  to lands  that are                                                               
already subject to the 1914 right-of-way.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
3:24:45 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
JOAQUIM BARBACHANO testified  in support of SB 86.   He mentioned                                                               
the letter  from Representative Don Young  regarding the railroad                                                               
easement. He  opined the intent  was not  to take away  land from                                                               
landowners.  He said  he  feels the  proposed  legislation is  an                                                               
"easy fix" for the problem.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
3:25:52 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
JACK BROWN  spoke to  a serious  attack on  property rights.   He                                                               
said Alaska Railroad Corporation  (ARRC) changed the legal nature                                                               
of the surface  easement which runs across private  property.  He                                                               
added the market value of his  property had been gutted by claims                                                               
of exclusive use  by the railroad.  He said  the homestead patent                                                               
is very clear about the right-of-way.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
3:28:37 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
SUSAN BROWN  testified in  the hearing  on SB 86.   She  said the                                                               
ARRC  had   illegally  and  unconstitutionally  stolen   land  of                                                               
Alaskans.  She added that a  few people in Anchorage, Alaska have                                                               
just learned about the issue.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE BIRCH asked  Ms. Brown whether she  was aware that                                                               
the  CS  only  states  the  ARRC does  not  have  authority  over                                                               
interest which was not owned at the time of transfer.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
MS. BROWN answered that she was fully aware of that.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
3:30:52 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
ROY  LONGACRE testified  in the  hearing on  SB 86.   He  said he                                                               
agreed with earlier  testimony from Mr. Tom Meacham.   He queried                                                               
why the ARRC had different needs  under state control than it had                                                               
under federal control.   He said that in order  to cut down trees                                                               
on private property, the ARRC required  it be hired to manage the                                                               
operation.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
3:34:45 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
JOHN KAGERER  testified in support  of SB 86.   He stated  he had                                                               
just been notified that the railroad  had been granted use of his                                                               
property.   He said  he had  had no prior  knowledge and  that he                                                               
believes it is  totally wrong.  He stated the  easement should be                                                               
returned to the way it was before.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
3:36:42 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR KITO closed public testimony on SB 86.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE JOSEPHSON  shared his concerns about  the proposed                                                               
bill.   He  stated he  feels the  decision should  go before  the                                                               
courts.  He spoke to the legal opinion on the proposal.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE BIRCH  commented that  the issue  was complicated.                                                               
He underlined  that ARRC  is a  state enterprise.   He  said that                                                               
under the state and federal law,  it is not the responsibility of                                                               
the property owners to address the issue.  He mentioned ARTA.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  KITO  said  he  would  characterize  the  responsibilities                                                               
differently.  He highlighted that  the shareholders are residents                                                               
of  Alaska and  the  legislature does  have  a responsibility  to                                                               
protect them.   He then spoke  to the partnerships with  the Port                                                               
of Anchorage, Alaska.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
3:46:34 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  WOOL  moved to  report  CSSB  86(FIN) AM  out  of                                                               
committee  with individual  recommendations and  the accompanying                                                               
fiscal notes.  There being no objection, it was so ordered.                                                                     

Document Name Date/Time Subjects
SB86 Letters of Support 5.3.18.pdf HL&C 5/4/2018 3:15:00 PM
SB 86
SB76 Ver. S.pdf HL&C 5/4/2018 3:15:00 PM
SB 76
SB76 and HB 357 Letters of support 5.4.18.pdf HL&C 5/4/2018 3:15:00 PM
HB 357
SB 76
SB76 and HB 357 Oppostion Letters 5.4.18.pdf HL&C 5/4/2018 3:15:00 PM
HB 357
SB 76
SB76 Explanation of Changes Ver C to Ver S 5.4.18.pdf HL&C 5/4/2018 3:15:00 PM
SB 76
SB76 Amendment S.3.pdf HL&C 5/4/2018 3:15:00 PM
SB 76